BP is still high..

"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
10/05/2018 at 11:32 • Filed to: None

150/102. Yikes. Doc wants to prescribe meds, but I’m anti-drug and have always overcome issues on my own, so I Google how to lower blood pressure:

Fifteen remedies

Here are 15 natural ways to combat !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

1. Walk and exercise regularly

Okay, I can do this. I already do. I can do it more. Sucks that winter is on the way though. The kids are older now and can be left alone which helps, and we have a doggo again which also helps.

2. Reduce your sodium intake

I will start eating MORE less salty foods. I already do. Lots of fruit and veggies so....

3. Drink less alcohol

FUCK.

THAT.

4. Eat more potassium-rich foods

Already do. will eat MORE.

5. Cut back on caffeine

This is a big one. I drink teas and sodas, so I will be cutting them out, and see how it goes.

6. Learn to manage stress

Job isn’t that stressful, compared to others I have had. Home-wise we have been dealing with the basement flooding issue, and other new-homeowner issues, so hopefully that’s a factor that will ease over time.

7. Eat dark chocolate or cocoa

FUCK YEA CHOCOLATE

8. Lose weight

This will go hand in hand with the increased exercise . I’m not like SUPER fat, but I have been around 220 (5"11') since high school.

9. Quit smoking

I do not smoke, and am very rarely around second hand smoke.

10. Cut added sugar and refined carbs

Another diet change I can deal with.

11. Eat berries

I like berries. Again, diet.

12. Try meditation or deep breathing

I tried this in between BP measurements at the doctor just now. It didn’t help. LoL.

WIll try more maybe.

13. Eat calcium-rich foods

I have cut out milk since my oldest daughter is lactose intolerant , and now I have become as well. Will supplement it somehow.

14. Take natural supplements

15. Eat foods rich in magnesium

DISCUSSION (53)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:35

Edit - I’m dumb.

For Sweden > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:35

I’m anti-drug

Wow dad stop being such a square

Ash78, voting early and often > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
10/05/2018 at 11:35

Heart rate? I think we’re talking BP...

Mine is congenitally “borderline” along with cholesterol. Resting HR: 48 yesterday.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Ash78, voting early and often
10/05/2018 at 11:36

Yeah, I’m an idiot.

Takuro Spirit > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
10/05/2018 at 11:36

Not sure. Probably. I’ve always had low bp so this is a shock to me.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:37

Sounds about right. Pretty much the same advice I got for my high Cholesterol, I have a family history but still gotta do what you gotta do.

Urambo Tauro > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:37

!!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

Kinja'd!!!

OM NOM NOM NOM

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Ash78, voting early and often
10/05/2018 at 11:37

Mine’s just below borderline as well, fwiw.

Takuro Spirit > For Sweden
10/05/2018 at 11:38

GO BACK TO YOUR ROOM AND NO MORE ROCK N’ ROLL

Takuro Spirit > Urambo Tauro
10/05/2018 at 11:39

I refrained from making a mag wheel joke. Thank you for taking the reins on that one.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:39

Yeah, that’s definitely a cause for concern if it’s recently greatly increased for some reason. Hope you get it figured out.

Sovande > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:39

Or listen to your doctor since chances are they know more than some rando on the internet?

I have a good friend how had high blood pressure and hypertension. He is in the hospital currently after a massive stroke left him paralyzed on one side of his body, likely for the duration. He’s 44.

Listen to the doctor.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:41

When I get my BP measured I’ll be at 135/90, a few minutes of breathing exercises and I’m at 120/75. Frankly my issue is mainly diet related. I could easily shed 10 lbs and lower my cholesterol and BP if I would cut out the foods i like (cookies, ice cream, tacos, and pizza ).

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Ash78, voting early and often
10/05/2018 at 11:41

48 is super low. The last time I had my heart rate taken, the nurse asked if I was a runner. I just laughed.

Tekamul > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:43

Im sorry, but alcohol is going to be the silver bullet. For both the BP and weight. Ask me how I know......

Takuro Spirit > Sovande
10/05/2018 at 11:43

I’ll see how this goes first. If lifestyle changes cannot fix it, then on the meds I go.

ttyymmnn > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:43

Take the medicine.

Get your BP under control.

Start your lifestyle changes.

Then, after some time, you can wean yourself off the meds and see if the lifestyle changes have taken hold. Have you been hypertensive for a while, or is this new? Some people are “essentially hypertensive” and a reading of 150/102 is not necessarily alarming, though action needs to be taken . If you have had normal BP all your life and suddenly get this reading, it requires immediate attention. I don’t know you personally, but the problem with most people who try to treat medical conditions with lifestyle changes never do, and the conditions worsen. Or you die. So I would reiterate what I said at the top. Take the meds, get your BP under control, then work on the lifestyle changes.

Disclaimer : I am a doctor, but not that kind of doctor. I am also hypertensive, and have been taking meds for years to control it.

PatBateman > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:43

Get your diet right (really right, not “I’m sure it’s fine” right), increase your activity (buy a Fitbit, use it), get your body into a healthy BMI, and don’t go back to old habits once you hit great milestones.

Want to nip your problem in the bud without meds? Do this shit right here.

Chariotoflove > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:43

So listen, your doctor is more than likely on board with these kinds of non-medical solutions. Discuss this stuff with him/her. He can be a way to vet what you read in your own research. He may also know how to combine these with medication for best effect.

I have known people who the doctor started on medication while they enacted lifestyle changes and then took them off when they lost the weight or whatever the goal was.

Wanting to use as few drugs as possible is a good thing. Just don’t let it scare you away if you do need them.

The Dummy Gummy > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:43

I’m anti-drug and have always overcome issues on my own

Ignoring everything else, you’re going to kill yourself mate.

Ash78, voting early and often > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
10/05/2018 at 11:44

I run a few miles a week, which has taken it down a bit, but it’s always been sub-60 for as long as I can remember. BP and Cholesterol, on the other hand...I’ve done personal studies (like a year or more) that diet has almost no impact on my numbers in either arena.

Takuro Spirit > Tekamul
10/05/2018 at 11:45

I only have a beer every couple of days, and never more than two usually. I do love me some stouts and porters though.

For Sweden > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:46

How can you understand me if you haven’t expanded your mind!?!?!

Quadradeuce > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:46

I had the same issue and had the same response. I increased my exercise , totally changed my diet, cut caffeine down to just a morning drink, lost 40 lbs, and never add salt to my food. It did jack shit. BP didn’t change at all. So now I’m on a low dose of lisinopril and BP is normal. I kept all the new habits, am in the best shape of my life, and continue to try to lose a little more weight.

ttyymmnn > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:46

I will also add that there is one glaring omission from that list: Get more quality sleep. Lack of sleep is thought to be one of the major factors that can affect BP, particularly if you suffer from sleep apnea.

Azrek > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:51

I’ve been on BP meds for awhile and I want off of it. I started taking Moringa and that is dramatically helped my BP. It is a herb or grain you can eat. I drink it or take a pill.

I just need to get back to working out more and get under 200lbs as I am hovering around 220 of beef and potatoes of former Army guy. That’ll help me dramatically.

Good luck

Tekamul > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:51

I was not a big drinker e ither. S ame schedule most weeks, 2 on Wednesday, 1 or 2 on Saturday, maybe 8-10 ‘party’ events a year when it got up to 5 or more.

But I thinking it’s an amplifier. The alcohol seemed to increase the impact of every other choice.

Takuro Spirit > ttyymmnn
10/05/2018 at 11:52

I’ve beaten several medical conditions in the past just with lifestyle changes. I’ve weened myself off meds and made it work.

I am attributing the high BP as of late to stress with the house, and lack of exercise since I haven’t been off my ass as much as I used to.

Takuro Spirit > Chariotoflove
10/05/2018 at 11:53

We discussed it, and he said to give it a couple weeks and come back and see how its working.

ttyymmnn > Chariotoflove
10/05/2018 at 11:53

^THIS^

Takuro Spirit > The Dummy Gummy
10/05/2018 at 11:54

Wow, great advice, thanks.

Takuro Spirit > ttyymmnn
10/05/2018 at 11:55

I sleep pretty good, 8 hours, only get up to pee once except for last night when I had to shit at 3am.

The Dummy Gummy > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:56

It’s reality. Do you know how many people I’ve dealt with that have had heart attacks or some other severe medical event because they thought they were wiser than their doctor/went the herbal route.

Yea its t ough love , but don’t want to see you die over stupidity.

ttyymmnn > Quadradeuce
10/05/2018 at 11:56

Some people are just essentially hypertensive. Nobody really knows why. But BP meds are stupid safe, and they work.

ttyymmnn > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:57

TMI

Spaceball-Two > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:58

I was recently diagnosed with high BP too. Mainly stress from work and gen etics. Doc put my on amlodipine. I was anti drug too but after a few months I can say I do feel better. Life style changes are good too but the meds will keep you around for your family down the road.

ttyymmnn > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 11:58

Good luck. (And I don’t mean that in a snarky way.)

Takuro Spirit > The Dummy Gummy
10/05/2018 at 12:00

I didn’t say I was going to completely ignore or stop going to the doctor . I had a full physical last week and EVERYTHING is fine except the BMI and BP.

I had high cholesterol a few years ago, and my bloodwork came back Monday and it was where they wanted it to be. I battled depression in my youth and beat that, when meds and doctors couldn’t.

If I can’t get the high BP under control I’ll give in and get meds, its fine.

I just don’t want to throw medications at all my problems. They’re not necessary in all instances.

Takuro Spirit > ttyymmnn
10/05/2018 at 12:02

I didn’t mention how runny it was at least....

shit

I mean oops.

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > Ash78, voting early and often
10/05/2018 at 12:04

Dang, that is great. When I was in collegiate cross country shape, mine was like 43-45. It hasn’t been that low since I graduated though. Mostly because my fitness goals changed from wanting to win to ‘maybe I shouldn’t get too much fatter’. lol

BJ > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 12:04

I don’t know if calcium is going to help your BP, but you can get it from soy, almonds, salmon, and greens like spinach, collards, etc. A quick Google search will get you the info you need.

If you want to drop weight, more exercise and less sugar are key. Obviously, less caffeine is good for your BP.

And if it comes to drugs, get informed about your choices. There are many different types with different costs and side-effects.

Good luck and stay healthy!

PartyPooper2012 > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 12:09

pressure typically builds when there is no place for the expansion to go.

Soooo we make a hole and pressure will be relieved. It might go down to zero tho... so let’s look up how to bring up blood pressure....

Left lane slow pokes.
BMW turn signal operations.
Reading this post.

There. that should cover all bases.

Ash78, voting early and often > SPAMBot - Horse Doctor
10/05/2018 at 12:10

Mine is always a tradeoff between being fit and looking too emaciated. I’m 6'2" with long limbs, so any time I get below about 190# I look too skinny for an adult. So I stay about 200# and just consider myself a runner with a fleshy weight vest :D

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Ash78, voting early and often
10/05/2018 at 12:11

I get plenty of walking in, but I really need to get in the habit of going on longer hikes regularly.

Heredity is a bitch.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 14:47

JTRAOI

Just The Right Amount Of Info

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 14:51

I neglected sleeping properly for 2 decades and now both my brain and body are paying for it really badly. Although I like my rowing machine, watch netflix and paddle an imaginary lake.

Takuro Spirit > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
10/05/2018 at 15:16

Once I get the basement sorted, my plan is to build an exercise area where I can work out from the luxury of a warm place with WiFi.

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > Ash78, voting early and often
10/05/2018 at 17:41

After doing 2+ years of inconsistent weight training, I’m less scrawny than I was. But not by much. I’ve just accepted it. At least I can fit in almost any car haha

TheRealBicycleBuck > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 19:12

My mother-in-law was dealing with diabetes and high cholesterol. She lost a bunch of weight and managed to get the diabetes under control, but couldn’t do anything about the high cholesterol. Now she’s on meds.

My wife’s blood pressure goes up with her heart rate. They still haven’t figured out that one, but a simple beta blocker gets everything under control. One pill a day. Totally worth it.

bt0 > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 19:25

Which would be a better motivator for getting it under control naturally, wanting to get off a drug or the nebulous possibility of stroke and heart attack at an undetermined point in the future? Which route has the greater risk of catastrophic outcome?

Whatever you do, set a goal BP and hard deadline. I get it, I’m anti pharmaceutical as well (if we ignore the contradiction of anti drug and anti giving up alcohol). I spent a month fixing diet and losing weight, but was still hypertensive afterward so I went in a low dose diuretic, and went on to lose more weight. I’m still only at goal BP with meds, trying to up my cardio and lose the last 15 to 20 lbs to get off of the meds .

But I know that every day with high blood pressure is a day your cardiovascular disease worsens, and some of that is irreversible. So my condition isn’t worsening while I get my house in order.

LTM > Takuro Spirit
10/05/2018 at 19:31

Hella funny...love your spirit.

I’ve started taking linospril 10 mg (might not be spelled correctly) two days ago. Hate it.

Ddefinitely going to incorporate all the suggestions into my everyday life. Giving it 6mths to be drug free on controlling my B.P.

pip bip - choose Corrour > Takuro Spirit
10/06/2018 at 08:17

good luck

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11/07/2018 at 21:42

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